Mudrat
03-03-2005, 06:40 AM
This is the story as it was told to me through the "grape vine". I don't know it to be 100% coorect, but something very close.
They built a truck with a suspension lift and a body lift (which they no longer will do) and put 38" tires on it. The guy was drinking on a Sunday watching football or something, ran out of smokes, went to the store drunk, had an accident, killed a grandmother and crippled a child. 4WP was found liable and negligent for the accident because they put tires on it that were larger than the "suspension manufacturer" allowed and something broke that caused the accident. They had a $20 million liability policy to cover that, but the other $20 million came out of pocket for the negligence. That is why 4WP is now VERY strict about what size tires they mount on what vehicle.
4 wheel parts is in some deep doo doo from what i hear...there is a post over on fl4x4 about it
COPIED THIS FROM FLORIDA 4x4's site.....
Federal law, specifically the Communications Decency Act, 47 U.S.C.A §230, states that websites are immune from any liability for statements Authored by others. I would like to personally like to thank the operators of this site.
The State Agency, “Bureau of Automotive Repair” has just completed their several month long “Fraud” investigation into the company known as 4 Wheel Parts Performance Centers, d.b.a. Transamerican Auto Parts Inc., d.b.a. TSI; resulting in the issuance of 15 violations.
This company operates 45 off-road stores nationwide, including but not limited to the selling of Factory Truck Warranties redeemable at all major nationwide dealerships along in being in the business of selling after-market parts & accessories on the internet and to dealerships nationwide.
However, there may be a serious conflict of interest issues with these warranties as 4WP mechanics are not GM/FORD/Daimler/Toyota/Nissan certified, nor retain the proper diagnostic equipment to give the complete required mechanical inspections, but they do anyway, and then sell these power-train warranties to be claimed at local dealerships.
In Addition, the title of 4WP’s, “No Questions Asked Tire Warranty” has also caught the interest of multiple Federal & State regulating agencies for being, “False & Misleading” to consumers for the fact that the warranty does ask questions and allows 4WP to reject warranty claims at anytime.
President Gregory W. Adler of has vehemently denied any wrong doing to date and has stated via the internet that, “The customer is number one at 4 Wheel Parts.”
However, his statement completely contradicts his companies Better Business Bureau “Company Report” of a Grade/Score (D) and an (F) for his sister company, “Steel Horse Automotive.” A BBB Company Reliability Report on his companies can be obtained at www.bbb.org.
Furthermore, Mr. Gregory W. Adler's statement of, “The Customer is Number 1” is once again contradicted by the 15 Violations recently issued by the State Agency, “Bureau of Automotive Repair.”
This is just some of the following State Agencies final report violation subject matter below:
•Written False and Misleading Statements etc. Sections (17500 & 3370) BAR Laws & Regulations
•Failure to Provide Written and Revised Signed Estimates etc. (Bennett v Hays Act)
•Charging for Items Not Specifically Described etc.
•Installation of Non-Calibrated (Zero-Mile) Odometer, installed on factory leases.
•10 other violations were issued similar in nature
•Several severe crimes were committed; unfortunately no enforcement action was taken, due to the fact that there are no laws/regulations and/or introduced legislation for swift action to be taken.
•The State Investigator audited the annual “idler arm” sales records between a major dealership and 4 Wheel Parts. Service Manager stated (name withheld), “That after approximately (600) 1500 series idler arms were sold to 4 Wheel Parts, they began to return them for credit/exchange. Service Manager continued, “I know that you are not installing these parts on factory stock trucks, but installing them on trucks with larger wheels and tires that puts a huge strain/wear on these parts causing them to wear prematurely.
The service manager continued, “Not only am I going to stop crediting you these “idler arm” parts, I'm going to stop selling them to you altogether.” 4 Wheel Parts were purchasing factory stock parts and stating that they were Heavy Duty to handle the larger wheels and tires. The State Investigator elected to issue a violation in this matter.
Then the same service manager decided that it was a prudent choice to turn over several sensitive complaint documents to the 4 Wheel Parts Corporation. The dealership service manager, now in bed with 4 wheel parts made the improper effort to smear the reputation of the original complainant, when he was being interviewed by the State Investigator. The State Investigator elected to audit the annual sales records between 4 Wheel Parts and this dealership. This is just one of several audits that are expected to come in the near future.
(Actual Invoices & Documents That Incriminated 4 Wheel Parts) (www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff112163.htm)
(FTC) Federal Trade Commission (www.ftc.gov/)
(IFCC) Internet Fraud Complaint Center (www.ifccfbi.gov/)
(BAR) Bureau of Automotive Repair (www.dca.ca.gov/)
(NHTSA) National Highway Traffic Highway Safety Adm. (www.nhtsa.dot.gov/)
(Attorney General) Public Inquiry Unit (www.caag.state.ca.us)
(EPA) Environmental Protection Agency (Spilling Oil & Antifreeze) (www.epa.gov/)
(OSHA) Occupational Safety and Health Administration (www.osha.gov/)
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I always liked 4WPW :smile:
Mudrat
They built a truck with a suspension lift and a body lift (which they no longer will do) and put 38" tires on it. The guy was drinking on a Sunday watching football or something, ran out of smokes, went to the store drunk, had an accident, killed a grandmother and crippled a child. 4WP was found liable and negligent for the accident because they put tires on it that were larger than the "suspension manufacturer" allowed and something broke that caused the accident. They had a $20 million liability policy to cover that, but the other $20 million came out of pocket for the negligence. That is why 4WP is now VERY strict about what size tires they mount on what vehicle.
4 wheel parts is in some deep doo doo from what i hear...there is a post over on fl4x4 about it
COPIED THIS FROM FLORIDA 4x4's site.....
Federal law, specifically the Communications Decency Act, 47 U.S.C.A §230, states that websites are immune from any liability for statements Authored by others. I would like to personally like to thank the operators of this site.
The State Agency, “Bureau of Automotive Repair” has just completed their several month long “Fraud” investigation into the company known as 4 Wheel Parts Performance Centers, d.b.a. Transamerican Auto Parts Inc., d.b.a. TSI; resulting in the issuance of 15 violations.
This company operates 45 off-road stores nationwide, including but not limited to the selling of Factory Truck Warranties redeemable at all major nationwide dealerships along in being in the business of selling after-market parts & accessories on the internet and to dealerships nationwide.
However, there may be a serious conflict of interest issues with these warranties as 4WP mechanics are not GM/FORD/Daimler/Toyota/Nissan certified, nor retain the proper diagnostic equipment to give the complete required mechanical inspections, but they do anyway, and then sell these power-train warranties to be claimed at local dealerships.
In Addition, the title of 4WP’s, “No Questions Asked Tire Warranty” has also caught the interest of multiple Federal & State regulating agencies for being, “False & Misleading” to consumers for the fact that the warranty does ask questions and allows 4WP to reject warranty claims at anytime.
President Gregory W. Adler of has vehemently denied any wrong doing to date and has stated via the internet that, “The customer is number one at 4 Wheel Parts.”
However, his statement completely contradicts his companies Better Business Bureau “Company Report” of a Grade/Score (D) and an (F) for his sister company, “Steel Horse Automotive.” A BBB Company Reliability Report on his companies can be obtained at www.bbb.org.
Furthermore, Mr. Gregory W. Adler's statement of, “The Customer is Number 1” is once again contradicted by the 15 Violations recently issued by the State Agency, “Bureau of Automotive Repair.”
This is just some of the following State Agencies final report violation subject matter below:
•Written False and Misleading Statements etc. Sections (17500 & 3370) BAR Laws & Regulations
•Failure to Provide Written and Revised Signed Estimates etc. (Bennett v Hays Act)
•Charging for Items Not Specifically Described etc.
•Installation of Non-Calibrated (Zero-Mile) Odometer, installed on factory leases.
•10 other violations were issued similar in nature
•Several severe crimes were committed; unfortunately no enforcement action was taken, due to the fact that there are no laws/regulations and/or introduced legislation for swift action to be taken.
•The State Investigator audited the annual “idler arm” sales records between a major dealership and 4 Wheel Parts. Service Manager stated (name withheld), “That after approximately (600) 1500 series idler arms were sold to 4 Wheel Parts, they began to return them for credit/exchange. Service Manager continued, “I know that you are not installing these parts on factory stock trucks, but installing them on trucks with larger wheels and tires that puts a huge strain/wear on these parts causing them to wear prematurely.
The service manager continued, “Not only am I going to stop crediting you these “idler arm” parts, I'm going to stop selling them to you altogether.” 4 Wheel Parts were purchasing factory stock parts and stating that they were Heavy Duty to handle the larger wheels and tires. The State Investigator elected to issue a violation in this matter.
Then the same service manager decided that it was a prudent choice to turn over several sensitive complaint documents to the 4 Wheel Parts Corporation. The dealership service manager, now in bed with 4 wheel parts made the improper effort to smear the reputation of the original complainant, when he was being interviewed by the State Investigator. The State Investigator elected to audit the annual sales records between 4 Wheel Parts and this dealership. This is just one of several audits that are expected to come in the near future.
(Actual Invoices & Documents That Incriminated 4 Wheel Parts) (www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff112163.htm)
(FTC) Federal Trade Commission (www.ftc.gov/)
(IFCC) Internet Fraud Complaint Center (www.ifccfbi.gov/)
(BAR) Bureau of Automotive Repair (www.dca.ca.gov/)
(NHTSA) National Highway Traffic Highway Safety Adm. (www.nhtsa.dot.gov/)
(Attorney General) Public Inquiry Unit (www.caag.state.ca.us)
(EPA) Environmental Protection Agency (Spilling Oil & Antifreeze) (www.epa.gov/)
(OSHA) Occupational Safety and Health Administration (www.osha.gov/)
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I always liked 4WPW :smile:
Mudrat
