t-18 to a360 whats involved?

[alex]

Inow will ask another question.What will I need to do to fit a t-18 into a 1978 360?What year do I ask for?What vehicle did they come from?What will i need to mate it to my motor and transfer case? :-| :-|

[Trailbst]

Hang out just a little bit longer. When Paul reads this I'm sure he will have an answer. He did this in his CJ about 2 years ago.




Erik

[jeepsr4ever]

depending on where it came from it just may be a bellhousing (stock) and clutch assembly and the right flywheel.

[tufcj]

From reading your earlier post, you have a T-150, so you have the right bellhousing, clutch, pressure plate, and pilot bushing. The T-18 you need was only available in I-6 equipped CJs from 76-79, and they are rare and pricey ($600-800). A Wagoneer or Jeep pickup T-18 from the same years can be used if it's converted to the shorter CJ input shaft, but the cost of the box, input and retainer, and rebuild kit plus labor makes the price about the same.

The T-18 is about 3 3/4" longer than the T-150, so the skid plate needs to move back (bolt holes are already in the frame). You will also need both driveshafts redone. The t-case will bolt up, but you need to lengthen the t-case shift linkage by the same amount. The lower left bolt on a T-18 is actually a stud inserted from the inside of the bellhousing, and the throwout arm needs to be notched for clearance to the head of the stud.

It is a worth while swap, I did it almost 10 years ago, and haven't ever regretted it.

Bob
tufcj

[alex]

It seems like more work than I thought.Expensive also.So the t-18 that is in the ford trucks,I read in jp magazine,are these the same as the jeep ones you describe from 76 to 79?What is my best bet for a manual trans to that 360?It seems like the t-150 is'nt going to make it from all the replys.

[pyagid]

Yes i have been running a T-18, the only thing i have to add to what TufCJ is you could also use one out of a 6cyl Full size jeep it has a 1" spacer in between the bellhousing and Tranny but still works nicely.

I know you originally posted your t-150 question in full size jeeps? Is this for a Full Size Jeep or a CJ (short wheelbase jeep) IF it is for a fullsize they are more common, and you WOULD want the long input shaft.

as far as teh Ford t-18, that is suggested b.c it is usually easier to find and you dont need to swap the input shaft, but i think you do need to buy an adapter for a transfer case.

-Paul

[KEV]

From reading your earlier post, you have a T-150, so you have the right bellhousing, clutch, pressure plate, and pilot bushing. The T-18 you need was only available in I-6 equipped CJs from 76-79, and they are rare and pricey ($600-800). A Wagoneer or Jeep pickup T-18 from the same years can be used if it's converted to the shorter CJ input shaft, but the cost of the box, input and retainer, and rebuild kit plus labor makes the price about the same.

The T-18 is about 3 3/4" longer than the T-150, so the skid plate needs to move back (bolt holes are already in the frame). You will also need both driveshafts redone. The t-case will bolt up, but you need to lengthen the t-case shift linkage by the same amount. The lower left bolt on a T-18 is actually a stud inserted from the inside of the bellhousing, and the throwout arm needs to be notched for clearance to the head of the stud.

It is a worth while swap, I did it almost 10 years ago, and haven't ever regretted it.

Bob
tufcj

Being a Jeep guy you should know to never say "never" and "only available with". The T-18 was available behind the 304, I picked up a 79 CJ-7 and a 78 CJ-5. Both had 6.34/1 1st gears.

[pyagid]

Being a Jeep guy you should know to never say "never" and "only available with". The T-18 was available behind the 304, I picked up a 79 CJ-7 and a 78 CJ-5. Both had 6.34/1 1st gears.


Very True :?:

-Paul

[tufcj]

They may have been swaps. The reason being I tried to order a new Jeep in 79 with a T-18 and 304. I was told by the dealer that the T-18 option was only available with the I-6.

I should know though from my AMX that AMC did allow some odd special orders to please customers, it just depended on how persistant the dealer was.

Back to the Ford T-18. It is usable without changing the input, but you need a Ford clutch disc, a different pilot bushing, and I believe a special throwout bearing too. The bolt pattern at the bellhousing is also different, so you may have to drill and tap. Both Advance Adapters and Novak require the 2WD Ford case for their adapters, since the bolt pattern on the tail is different from the 4x4 versions. If you're going that route, also consider the NP435, it has the same input shaft, and a lower 1st gear.

Bob
tufcj

[alex]

Ok thanks for all the info.My wifes dad actually owns a big ford junkyard in alabama.We live in michigan.I had my wife call him and he said jeep guys come in all the time for t-18's.He does have 1 and he will charge me 1/2 price which is $200.

[Jeepin002]

I bought my T-18 from Parts mike in Sacramento, Ca. It was completly rebuilt and ready for install he even supplied the tranny mount and Dana 300 adapter. If anyhing check it out for info. It was a plug and play for my CJ7 with the 360 V-8.

My .02

[alex]

Ok .I have a cj7 1979 and I found a t-18 trans and model 20 transfer case combo used here in michigan out of a fsj.I have read all the reply's and I am somewhat confused again.Can I use this with a spacer or do i have to change the input shaft to the shorter one I have? 111!!!

[pyagid]

if the FSJ is a V8 you need to change the input shaft. If it is a 6cyl you could use it with the small spacer. V8 spacer is about 10"s 6cyl is about 1"

-Paul

[alex]

The guy who has it says he doesnt know what it came out of,just that it was a full sizejeep.I could have him measure the output shaft ,It sound like a 10" difference but what is the actual shaft length of the shorter 1 I need?

[tufcj]

The CJ input shaft will only be about 6.5 to 6.75" long from the front face of the trans. A FSJ will be 12 to 13". It's easy to tell the difference.

Bob
tufcj

[alex]

ok,thanks.

[alex]

the guy just told me that the shaft measures 10 inches from the case to the endand 7 1/2 inches from the release bearing end.This must be the one thats to long for my cj.