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jeep_man_401
10-12-2007, 03:10 AM
Didn't the J20 come with one? :-|

anything close fit to a J10 out of a Chevy or Dodge? :-|

dan58
10-12-2007, 06:18 AM
No Jeep ever came with a 60 front. You'll want a Chevy 60 from a SRW. Typically, they were in K30s from 77-87.

Soylent_Green
10-12-2007, 11:20 AM
Some old 3/4 and 1 ton fords had the HP 60 front. (70's) I've been looking for one for years, and have yet to find one that someone will part with.

ironman_gq
10-12-2007, 12:14 PM
check the junkyards.

jeep_man_401
10-12-2007, 01:21 PM
I'm a grove hunter myself. 8) That how I came along my parts truck. I do know were 2 or 3 old chevys are, that have divorced NP205's...but I'm not sure what the front ends are. He also has a old Javelin or 2 and a Gremlin. :smile: Maybe If I stop I'll snap a pic or 2.
Have to take a trip next weekend to drop my son off and will look around on the way back. Now that the leaves are coming off the trees you can see way back into the groves. :mrgreen:

JERSEYJOE
10-12-2007, 03:31 PM
whats an SRW?

mwouda
10-12-2007, 06:18 PM
SRW= Single Rear Wheels

76-cj7
10-12-2007, 11:09 PM
Dualies have a retarded ass extended hub/rotor assembly for the bud wheels........been there done that............Brother picked up a chevy D60 complete for 600 bucks.....old Consol Coal pit truck....too bad it was for a dualie :(:

dan58
10-13-2007, 08:14 AM
Some old 3/4 and 1 ton fords had the HP 60 front. (70's) I've been looking for one for years, and have yet to find one that someone will part with.

That's the 78-79 SnoFighter and Camper special F250 (high GVWR) and the F350. Those are the high pinion, king pin, DS drop.

Ford = DS drop
Chevy/Dodge = PS drop

You can machine down a dually hub or just purchase the SRW hubs.

I forget the years, but some later model Fords have a KP60 as well.

Everything you ever needed to know about D60 fronts:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/60_front/index.html

Doug Brown has more 60s than you can shake a stick at:

http://www.extremeaxlesales.com/

PavementPounder
10-24-2007, 09:14 PM
[quote=Soylent_Green]Some old 3/4 and 1 ton fords had the HP 60 front. (70's) I've been looking for one for years, and have yet to find one that someone will part with.

That's the 78-79 SnoFighter and Camper special F250 (high GVWR) and the F350. Those are the high pinion, king pin, DS drop.

Ford = DS drop
Chevy/Dodge = PS drop

You can machine down a dually hub or just purchase the SRW hubs.

I forget the years, but some later model Fords have a KP60 as well.

You don't have to machine down anything on Ford dually front D60's. The dually hubs unbolt. Its only the Chevy axles that have to be machined off.

ALL Ford D60's from 1978-up are reverse-cut (what is commonly called high-pinion).


I don't know if its just the part of the country you guys are living in, but there's no shortage here in Michigan. I've personally had 3 of the 78-79 HPD60's in the past 6 months (and 1 right now) and probably 3 or 4 other ones that have been a mixture of kingpin and balljoint. I'll start keeping an eye out for you guys.

The trend is going towards ball joint on lighter vehicles since the ball joints on these axles were designed to hold up a lot more weight. A lot of people are also moving towards unit bearing axles. Although the bearing assemblies are much more expensive, they are much more resistant to contamination by mud/water when submerged and some suppliers (like NAPA) are now offering unlimited lifetime warranties. I now have a set of those on my Ram.

Soylent_Green
10-25-2007, 10:14 PM
I would be interested to know if there was one available up there. I don't think my D44 is going to put up with my right foot for much longer...

jeep_man_401
10-26-2007, 02:51 AM
I don't know if its just the part of the country you guys are living in, but there's no shortage here in Michigan. I've personally had 3 of the 78-79 HPD60's in the past 6 months (and 1 right now) and probably 3 or 4 other ones that have been a mixture of kingpin and balljoint. I'll start keeping an eye out for you guys.

If you ever find one let me know...I will drive out there and pick it up from you for right price :t: I live in MN and have a brother in Michigan...on the up

PavementPounder
10-26-2007, 01:52 PM
Jeep_Man_401, I think I may have located a 78 HPD60, but this would be the wrong drop for you based on what I have read unless you want to change your t-case (or re-tube). I'll keep an eye out for a Chevy/Dodge for you. These are not that far from me, but they are not cheap. However, they are mostly new, have 35-spline outers, geared, Detroit'd f&r, and it includes some steering parts:

Dana 60 front. 4.88. Detroit. 0 miles on all parts. Completely rebuilt, new. 35 spline outers w/lockouts and drive flanges.
14 bolt rear. 4.88 Detroit. Used, but not a thing wrong with it.
Cross over steering setup. Arm, drag link, steering box, pitman arm. Thinking of going a different direction with the truck, but I can only do it if I sell this first. This is a COMPLETE setup. Located near Yale, MI. $2500


If anybody would like me to look for candidates, PM me with the specific configuration you would prefer. :t:

I'm guessing that the 80-up FSJ crowd wants to stick to the 78-79 HPD60's due to the close match on the perch spacing and inboarded diff (longer driver tube), but later models are fine for people running 4-links. As for the 78-79 HPD44/D60 combos, I find them fairly frequently and they typically have 4.10's. These are nice since they are factory SOA, flat-top, reverse-cut, typically equipped with lockouts, and have dual-piston calipers.

I'll post links to whatever I see that is not feasible for me to handle personally due to distance or equipment limitations. (I'm currently in the market for a better utility trailer.)

Elliott
11-21-2007, 10:16 PM
No Jeep ever came with a 60 front. You'll want a Chevy 60 from a SRW. Typically, they were in K30s from 77-87.

The Jeep M715 came with a front D60, but it was the SUA closed knuckle coarse spline.

Elliott
11-21-2007, 10:21 PM
Dualies have a retarded ass extended hub/rotor assembly for the bud wheels........been there done that............Brother picked up a chevy D60 complete for 600 bucks.....old Consol Coal pit truck....too bad it was for a dualie :(:

Get'a a cheaper DRW D60 front end, swap in a 74" wms rear D70 HD from a GM DRW pickup and run H1 rims without recentering them;)
Here's a cheap one ($600) in NJ if it hasn't been snagged up already:
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=76973&highlight=dana+60

I pull the D70 HD's around here for $35. on a good day;)

http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10016/_80Project.JPG

dan58
11-22-2007, 10:19 AM
H1s are fine, but you're stuck with 16.5" wheels. Yuck. You're hubs will stick out and get clobbered by rocks.

Elliott
11-22-2007, 06:19 PM
The rims are cheap (at least around here, ~$65) and you can add rock plates to 'em so if the axle is only $600 I can deal with the tire choices. Just saying it ain't a boat anchor, considering lots of people feel it is... I was able to get the front 60 rear 70HD for ~$400 and the H1 rims/37"s for another $250.

These are for the 8 bolt H1's, at $115/4:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/Great%20Lake%20Offroad%20Products/RockRings.jpg

dan58
11-27-2007, 09:13 PM
You can't get Krawlers in a 16.5. :t:

I won't run anything else, but you won't find me anywhere near mud either. Rocks are my playground.

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