77 CJ7 Power Steering Pulley

[arhame]

Good Afternoon,

Would anyone happen to know where I can purchase a new power steering pulley for a 77 CJ7 with the 304 setup?

I've replaced the stock saginaw pump with an AGR Super pump (externally it's the same).

My old pulley is apparently bent. When I fire the motor up, you can see the pulley wobbling, and I really would prefer NOT to ruin this new pump.

Any info that anyone could provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Aubrey

[tufcj]

All the AMC cars, trucks, Jeeps are the same from about 75 or 76 up to 91 except the small Cherokee.

I know I don't have a spare, but you should be able to grab one off any Grand Wagoneer at a boneyard. It does take a special tool to pull and replace them properly, you should be able to borrow or rent one at a local parts store.

Bob
tufcj

[arhame]

Thanks for the reply tufcj.

I know on my 87 wrangler, the belt is a serpentine, so, that's a no go.

Do you happen to know if this is the same pully that was used on most V8 Chevrolet's from the 70's through mid 80's?

I've already contacted Summit Racing and March Performance pulley's and they weren't sure.

I've also talked to Bulltear. He has every other pully imaginable for the AMC engine, except the power steering.

I would preferrably like to purchase a new one, just to make sure it's not warped.

Thanks for any additional info anyone could provide.....

[tufcj]

I should have said all the V-belt pulleys are the same. I don't know about Chevy. They use the same pump so it would fit the shaft, but the offset on the pulleys may be different.

Bob
tufcj

[hotratz]

They come up on ebay from time to time. Also the Chrysler dealer still lists them for about $99.00.

I thought I read on here some time ago somebody fitted a Chevy pulley and it had the same offset. Might be worth confirming.

[1980_Cj7]

Just don't get suckered into using a double pulley with two different diameter pulleys on it like we did. We thought the smaller diameter pulley would make the steering pump spin faster at the lower speeds often encountered off-roading. That is true, but the downside is the smaller diameter pulley gives much less belt contact, and we couldn't stop the belt from slipping. We had to replace it with one with equal size pulleys.

https://home.comcast.net/~rwsr50/ComcastOnlineStorage/401 2nd Rebuild 005.jpg

Note: I've tried and tried to get the above pic to show. I don't know why it won't. I even pasted it into one of my posts over on JU to see if it would work, and it showed up just fine.

[hotratz]

Here ya go.

https://home.comcast.net/~rwsr50/ComcastOnlineStorage/401%202nd%20Rebuild%20005.jpg

[Mudrat]

When I had to replace my pump housing and pulley (pump reservoir had a hole in it) I got a whole unit off a 77 Monty Carlo from the boneyard and swapped in my AGR pump and put the new pully on it. AZ had the pully =D> puller/presser tools.

[1980_Cj7]

[quote="hotratz"]Here ya go.

Thanks for the help with the picture. I wanted to show that pulley with the two different diameters. Don't even know what it came off of. I had a bunch of steering pumps laying around and it was on one of them. Someone said it may have been for an A.I.R. pump belt.

Like I said though, it didn't work out. Not enuff belt contact and couldn't keep the belt from slipping.

We picked up a puller set for the power steering pulley at Harbor Freight. It was dirt cheap and works great. Would have spent more in gas borrowing and returning one from one of the parts houses that loans them out.

[Mudrat]

We picked up a puller set for the power steering pulley at Harbor Freight. It was dirt cheap and works great. Would have spent more in gas borrowing and returning one from one of the parts houses that loans them out.
That's an option too, but it's fun just to jump on the bike and ride the 1.25 miles for me :? I guess I'm lucky that I have 6 parts stores and 3 tire dealers within 3 miles me :!:

[ironman_gq]

I've seen the dual pulleys with the different sizes on the 4.2L used in CJ's

[76-cj7]

I personally have seen most dual pulleys used on v8's with a/c and smog pumps......at least those are the ones ive noticed..........take your old pulley to local parts store and compare with what they have in stock

[arhame]

Thanks for all the replies.

Hotratz, Would you happen to have a part number for that pully from chrysler? I'm actually getting desperate, and wouldn't mind spending the $99.00 for the pully.

Thanks for all the help/suggestions.

[hotratz]

I can get it when I get home from work this afternoon.

[tufcj]

Maybe MC can make some like this for V-belts? Too bad these are only for serp. systems.

http://www.genright.com/category.aspx?categoryID=17

Bob

[Mudrat]

still waiting the serpentine design . . . . with reverse water pumps of course :wink:

[hotratz]

Thanks for all the replies.

Hotratz, Would you happen to have a part number for that pully from chrysler? I'm actually getting desperate, and wouldn't mind spending the $99.00 for the pully.

Thanks for all the help/suggestions.

The AMC P/N is 3227674. I believe I remember when I talked to the Chysler parts counter they found it by adding a "J" to the front of the AMC number.

I just looked under the hood of my Chevy pick-up and it appears it has the same offset. You could take your warped one to a junk yard and try to match it up with a 1976 or later Chevy. The earlier ones had a tapered shaft and a key with a nut holding them on as was the same for the 75 and earlier Jeeps. 76 and on where staright shaft, press fit.

Hope that helps.

[arhame]

Thanks for the response hotratz.

I just got back in from the local Jeep dealership down here, and he was able to locate that parts number and cross-reference it with a more current number.

It ended up costing me $132.11, which isn't that big of a deal if this is the correct one.

Keep your fingers crossed.

Thanks again....

NOW, if I could just find those heater cables........

[Mudrat]

NOW, if I could just find those heater cables........
Jeep part numbers:
J546 3656 1 CABLE, Temperature Control
J546 3657 1 CABLE, Fresh Air Control
J546 3655 1 CABLE, Heater Control

http://www.thejeep.com
http://www.lacasadeljeeppr.com
http://www.vintagejeepparts.com/Parts_Heater_01.asp (he’s twice the price of the first two)
http://www.jeepparts4less.com/

Just GOOGLE or ASK.com the part numbers above and keep searching – or find a boneyard that has any year CJ I just did a GOOGLE on 5463656,cable and got bunches-o-pages for the temp control cable (the long one) :wink:

And no, I'm not getting you them for your birthday :sa: cost me enough to get them for my CJ!!!

[arhame]

Thanks for the reply mudrat, but those are for the wrong model jeep.

The climate control cables for the 76-77 jeeps are different than those for the 78-86.

Sadly, I'm becoming quite the expert on the differences between the first two year CJ7's and the last years........

Any other ideas?

[Mudrat]

Sorry, parts book only goes back to 1981 :smile: See if you can get the numbers from the $tealership and do a search?

Sadly even http://www.omix-ada.com doesn't list them 111!!!

[arhame]

I've actually contacted Omix-Ada and Crown Automotive to see if they would considering producing the cables that fit the 76-77 models. It would take a couple of years to go through development, PLUS I would have to order an ungodly amount of them for them to even consider producing them.

so that's a no-go also.

If I could find someone who has the measurements of the cables, i found a place up in New Jersey that could possibly make some really high quality replacements - BUT, without some specs on the originals, I would have to guesstimate.

I've also checked with the dealership, and they responded "Sorry sir, but we wouldn't know where to begin to locate that information on a jeep that old". 1. A 77 CJ7 is NOT that old. and 2. A CJ is NOT that old.

Anyways, if anyone would or could possibly measure theirs (from the 76-77 years) or even possibly have an old set (doesn't matter if it's good or not, I just need measurements) I would be GREATLY appreciative.

Thanks again.

[Mudrat]

The only other place I can think of is Collins Brothers Jeep. They might have either the cables or the specs...

http://www.collinsbrosjeep.com/main.htm

[arhame]

I've tried collinsbros also.

For future reference, does anyone here maintain a list of good used jeep parts places, i.e. like a salvage yard or used jeep parts store?

I've came across quite a few with all of the searching I've been doing on this project. Next to collins brothers, another REALLY good one with VERY reasonable prices is J&W Jeep out of California.

http://www.jwjeep.com/

Thanks again for the response...

[Mudrat]

Try this ...
http://www.4wdonline.com/Enews/9508.garcia.html

or

http://www.kaiserwillys.com/willys-jeep-links.html

After that, I don't know. Sorry

[arhame]

The power steering pully came in on Thursday, and it worked perfectly.

Thanks for the info on the part number.

Still looking for the 77 heater cables.

[hotratz]

I went through that whole ordeal myself when I put power steering in my 76 CJ, They were nowhere to be found. I searched and searched for even a part number but couldn't get it either. Finally I found one on ebay that was new old stock. When it arrived it still had the P/N label still stuck to it. I saved the label just in case I had to reference it again. Little did I know someone would need it so soon. I'm still kinda thinking the Chevy ones are the same. I need to confirm that and post it up.