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Mudrat
09-16-2008, 05:16 PM
Is this illegal or what?

Maureen Dowd, winner of the 1999 Pulitzer Prize for distinguished commentary, became a columnist on The New York Times Op-Ed page in 1995 after having served as a correspondent in the paper’s Washington bureau since 1986. She has covered four presidential campaigns and served as White House correspondent. She also wrote a column, "On Washington," for The New York Times Magazine.

Ms. Dowd joined The New York Times as a metropolitan reporter in 1983. She began her career in 1974 as an editorial assistant for The Washington Star, where she later became a sports columnist, metropolitan re porter and feature writer. When the Star closed in 1981, she went to Time magazine.

Born in Washington D.C. , Ms. Dowd received a B.A. degree in English literature from Catholic University ( Washington , D.C. ) in 1973.

WHERE DID OBAMA’S MONEY COME FROM???????
Subject: New York Times Editorial
By MAUREEN DOWD
Published: June 29, 2008
Go to Columnist Page

Certainly the most interesting and potentially devastating
OBAMA’S TROUBLING INTERNET FUND RAISING
Certainly the most interesting and potentially devastating phone call I have received during this election cycle came this week from one of the Obamaâ’s campaign internet geeks. These are the staffers who devised Obama’s internet fund raising campaign which raised in the neighborhood of $200 million so far. That is more then twice the total funds raised by any candidate in history and this was all from the internet campaign.

What I learned from this insider was shocking but I guess we shouldn’t be surprised that when it comes to fund raising there simply are no rules that can’t be broken and no ethics that prevail.

Obama’s internet campaign started out innocently enough with basic e-mail networking , lists saved from previous party campaigns and from supporters who visited any of the Obama campaign web sites.

Small contributions came in from these sources and the internet campaign staff were more than pleased by the results.

Then, about two months into the campaign the daily contribution intake multiplied. Where was it coming from? One of the web site security monitors began to notice the bulk of the contributions were clearly coming in from overseas internet service providers and at the rate and frequency of transmission it was clear these donations were programmed by a very sophisticated user.

While the security people were not able to track most of the sources due to firewalls and other blocking devices put on these contributions they were able to collate the number of contributions that were coming in seemingly from individuals but the funds were from only a few credit card accounts and bank electronic funds transfers. The internet service providers (ISP) they were able to trace were from Saudi Arabia , Iran , and other Middle Eastern countries. One of the banks used for fund transfers was also located in Saudi Arabia

Another concentrated group of donations was traced to a Chinese ISP with a similar pattern of limited credit card charges.

It became clear that these donations were very likely coming from sources other than American voters. This was discussed at length within the campaign and the decision was made that none of these donations violated campaign financing laws.

It was also decided that it was not the responsibility of the campaign to audit these millions of contributions as to the actual source (specific credit card number or bank transfer account numbers) to insure that none of these internet contributors exceeded the legal maximum donation on a cumulative basis of many small donations. They also found the record keeping was not complete enough to do it anyway.

This is a shocking revelation.

We have been concerned about the legality of bundling contributions after the recent exposure of illegal bundlers but now it appears we may have an even greater problem.

I guess we should have been somewhat suspicious when the numbers started to come out. We were told (no proof offered) that the Obama internet contributions were from $10.00 to $25.00 or so.

If the $200,000,000 is right, and the average contribution was $15.00, that would mean over 13 million individuals made contributions? That would also be 13 million contributions would need to be processed. How did all that happen?

I believe the Obama campaign’s internet fund raising needs a serious, in depth investigation and audit. It also appears the whole question of internet fund raising needs investigation by the legislature and perhaps new laws to insure it complies not only with the letter of these laws but the spirit as well.

IS IT RIGHT FOR FOREIGN COUNTRIES TO HAVE AN INVESTMENT IN WHO BECOMES OUR NEXT PRESIDENT??? IF YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS, PLEASE PASS IT ON.

The fact that the NY Times allowed this to be printed is amazing in itself.

rollen dean montoya
09-16-2008, 07:02 PM
i think its quite illegal and obama should just go away

ironman_gq
09-16-2008, 08:32 PM
I second that vote :sa:

cheapjeep
09-17-2008, 12:23 PM
As much as I hate Osama, I mean Obama, the story is not true... http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/donations.asp

Mudrat
09-17-2008, 02:29 PM
As much as I hate Osama, I mean Obama, the story is not true... http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/donations.asp
I agree Maureen didn't write it -
BUT, there is some dispute about it being lawful to take such large quantities of FOREIGN donations for any US Political race. From what I've read, a lot of those 'donations' are not identifiable to our federal authorities: read as anonymous FOREIGN political contributions, but are still used by the candidate????

Now, riddle me this Batman, who has the most to gain by having a Liberal in the White House? Hamas has endorsed Osama (http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/04/020315.php), I mean Obama (actually both of them), and he has said he will hold unconditional talks with the Terrorist Nations – and read THAT as the ‘Axis of Evil’. It will be a very scary time if Obama gets elected. Do the research yourself on what he REALLY means when he says ‘public health care’. You will pay for all you and your family, AND the illegal’s and welfare folks. Look at what he has said he’s going to spend for other ‘programs’. Where is that money going to come from? You and me via forced taxes. Don’t know about you, but I already pay enough in taxes to support a whole different family that I don’t even know!!!

I don’t like EITHER candidates illegal’s position, but once again, we are forced with a choice between the lesser of 2 evils – not a good choice in the last several “Elections” which is also not a real statement – we are presented biased info from the liberal press and unfortunately most uneducated, non-self thinking people believe the press and go no further in doing any research for facts, but believe the BS given them on TV and the papers. [And the difference between OBAMA and OSAMA is BS :wink: And which candidate will do what he can to take your guns away and which believes in the Second Amendment? I can tell you, but you need to see the research for yourself.

BUT, if you don’t vote one way or the other – you can’t bitch (or crow) about who won because you were silent on THE day, don’t complain about who everybody else put in office. But then that brings up the electoral college. That group is who REALLY puts the candidate in the Oval Office, not ‘We the People’ which is also BOGUS and the source of another winded diatribe.

Obama: "Endorsement by Hamas makes sense" (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=64162) His words . . .

Then look and see they really are on the Terrorist list!! (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0908746.html). Not a large group per se, but they are now the Government of Lebanon!!!!

And I COMPLETELY got away from why I logged in to start with - check THIS (http://www.moyermade.com/chevyV8.html) out!!:t:


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cheapjeep
09-17-2008, 04:14 PM
Don't get me wrong, I totally agree with you. I know is sounds paranoid, but I almost think he is a "Sleeper". His family never had money but he went to private schools and then Harvard :-| . How did they afford all of that? He has lead a charmed life, always able to afford what he wants, almost like someone or some group is funding him. And now Millions in donations from ?????

I don't care much for McCain, but at least we know he is an American.

I have bought a few new guns and some "spare" ammo. I don't trust either one of them to honor the 2nd amendment.

Mudrat
09-17-2008, 05:06 PM
Don't get me wrong, I totally agree with you. I know is sounds paranoid, but I almost think he is a "Sleeper". His family never had money but he went to private schools and then Harvard :-| . How did they afford all of that? He has lead a charmed life, always able to afford what he wants, almost like someone or some group is funding him. And now Millions in donations from ?????

I don't care much for McCain, but at least we know he is an American.

I have bought a few new guns and some "spare" ammo. I don't trust either one of them to honor the 2nd amendment.
Yup - doing the stocking up thing too.

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