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Trusty258
12-18-2002, 09:12 AM
Im intersted to know If anyone is using a NP435 Behind an AMC Mill 232 258, 4.0 304 360, 401, and how its woking out, We all know of the T18 swap, is this any better or worse.

In general how did it work and how do you like it?

Thanks

Jesse

jeepsr4ever
12-18-2002, 09:32 AM
hey jessie a np435 is a great tranny but it had many versions some of which arent compatably with amc engine, meaning they dont make an adaptor for it, there is a guy running a dodge version, hes actually a member on this board jeepmaddness85 i think, if i spelled it right. he said he wouldnt go back to his t4, I dont blame him, his tranny has a wayyy low first gear

Trusty258
12-20-2002, 10:22 PM
I was thinking, that The NP 435 was put into Fords and Dodges, so its more likely that i'd find one than the sought after T18. and Its got a deeper First gear.

I just see it as being a better alternative than the T150s and T4s that are in half of the Jeeps out there.

Jesse

hemicj8
12-23-2002, 02:48 AM
I have an 82 scrambler with a 97 4.0 with an np435. I also have a t18 in my 72 cj5 with chevy 400small block. I think the np435 shifts a little easier. They are both plentiful ford used these from the 70 to late 80's in f150's-2.5 ton dump trucks. The t18 was also used more frequently in the lighter trucks. which is stronger is a great debate. the np's have a 6.69 first vs. the 6.32 of the t18. I originally had a 258 with a t176. the np435 bolts right up to the t176 bellhousing stock clutch, arm, and i believe pilot but i changed this due to the 4.0 conversion. It is a nice three speed with a creeper gear. I wish I had overdrive but hey I didn't have the time or money for a nv4500 at the time. I would reccommend the swap. Give parts mike a call he can set you up. one other side note New Process became New Venture so the name and quality is there. If you ever have to tow this tranny pull the driveshaft or put it on a flatbed or you will burn it up quick.
Adam

cjmike67
12-13-2003, 04:35 PM
Well ive been a user and abuser of the np435 for about 15 years now and i love it ! The novack kit i used is about 2 inches shorter then a comparable t18 kit so thats another plus too!

cjmike67
05-21-2006, 01:20 PM
Ive got the ford 2wd version of the np435 and the dana 300 case.I used the Novack adapter as it is a little bit shorter then the AA adapter!As for the tranny itself it rocks and is strong as hell with the 6.67 gears in first gear and reverse! :sa: [/img]

striker
12-17-2007, 10:45 PM
i know this is an old post.. just wondering cjmike, if you had any problems with the clutch setup. not as far as what parts such as disc or pressure plate. mine sure seems to go through throw out bearings like it cool. its like the linkage dosen't have enough travel. set it up for free play and the transmission dosen't like to shift. make it a little tighter and throw out bearing starts to sing after 3oo 400 miles. just wondered if you had any adjust problems??

76-cj7
12-17-2007, 10:52 PM
Buddy of mine has an 82' scram-bamin-jambler that we swapped a NP435 into......got it from a 79 f-350 and used an older bellhousing i had from a 77' cj-7 with a 3-spd?....anyways all we had to do was swap clutch disc due to the 82' being a 1 1/16"? input spline and ford being a 1 1/8" spline or vise-versa?? been since early summer so i don't remember details ......but we used the ford 205 t-case and a ford hi-pinion D60.......wrked great until he got stupid and wanted rockwell 2 1/2 tons, 44 boggers, and a ford 400..... 111!!! :razz:

striker
12-18-2007, 05:34 PM
just had a thought.. could someone using a jeep setup check their mech clutch linkage.. it has a long ear and a short ear. which one goes to the pedal rod and which goes to the clutch fork rod.??

76-cj7
12-18-2007, 06:12 PM
Long on pedal linkage side and short on clutch fork side i believe? :-|

cjmike67
12-18-2007, 10:37 PM
I use the Centreforce dual friction set up for the clutch.As for everything else i did have problems with the throwout bearing wearing out to much.What i did was replace the linkage with heims that i built and through together as ends and replaced the front bearing retainer sleeve[throw out bearing also runs on the outside of this piece] and havent looked back.It did take a bunch of screwing around to fine tune but i had that problem before the swap so i cant blame the tranny!Hope this helps Mike :wink:

striker
12-19-2007, 08:44 PM
I used the centerforce setup as well,and tried to use the throw out bearing (N-1439)but it wouldn't fit over the retainer sleeve. used one from a '79 model w/ a three speed and thought it was good. but a few hundred miles down the road it starts singing. I mught try a new retainer sleeve. I should have replace it when I got the tranny rebuilt... but you know how it goes. plus most redneck tranny shops around here have no idea of whats going on, so no help there.. :(: how I dread pulling that heavy transmission :(: .. thanks

jeepsr4ever
12-19-2007, 09:19 PM
This post reminded me of how I take more time before posting. Man look at my spelling... :?:

rollen dean montoya
12-19-2007, 09:29 PM
after a few :razz: :razz: :razz: we all have spelling issues
:mrgreen: 8)

cjmike67
12-19-2007, 10:04 PM
If my memory serves me correctly i think i used a ford 614038 throw out bearing friom National BCA Bearing!It is greaseable and has served me well !7 years since its been apart!Mike :!:

76-cj7
12-19-2007, 10:41 PM
if im not mistaken that throwout your talkin aboot is also for a jeep with a 232 I-6 w/lever style clutch..........heavy duty cast one w/grease fittins?

cjmike67
12-20-2007, 12:46 AM
Its been so long since i did the swap and the screwing around but that sounds about right! :sa:

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