I have never seen a main stud girdle for the AMC V8, I know they are used with quite a bit of success on Ford two-bolt-main small blocks.
Does anyone besides me think they would be a good idea for AMC's, especially 304 and 360 blocks?
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I have never seen a main stud girdle for the AMC V8, I know they are used with quite a bit of success on Ford two-bolt-main small blocks.
Does anyone besides me think they would be a good idea for AMC's, especially 304 and 360 blocks?
My machinist has made a few that he plans to sell over the internet, as soon as he gets a new computer. Made from 1/2in steel. I'll try to get some pictures.
OK, here are a couple pics. These are'nt available just yet. He's still working out pan clearence issue. 1/2in steel, ARP studs. Cost will probably be in the $200.00 range.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...0158Custom.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...0157Custom.jpg
No F#%^*^$#%^ modify button on this forum.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...0158Custom.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...0157Custom.jpg
That looks really good :? I think if I were building enough motor to warrant a main girdle, I would likely ditch the internal pickup and go external. I'm thinking about trying my hand at fabricating an oil pan, I would like to look at a Milodon or Canton and see what kind of baffle arrangment they use. BTW, that is quite possibly the cleanest block I have ever seen
The block was shot peened. Destresses the block.
Ahhh, I see. 'Gonna be a fast one, eh? :sa:
Would like to get my name on the list?
OK, it's Sat night, I've had a couple - but still don't understand why a Stud needs a girdle :? :!:
The AMC stud girdle was printed in performace american style the book that said it may help.
OK, STUD you missed my point :?: So where's YOUR girdle :-| ??? You certainly didn't have one at the FSJ invasion :mrgreen:Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepsr4ever
I don't know about a girdle, but I won a bra from a fairly hot chick tonight in a pool game. She says she'll be coming to retrieve it and settle the rest of the bet in the AM. I 'll keep you posted. :? :lo1l:
Do you need a girdle, maybe not, but you know you want one, admit it!
Girdle hell!!! I just wanted 'some' this morning, but OOOOhhhhh nooooooo, she had tp go to work :smile:
I'm begining to sound like MC :shock: :smile:
She showed, whoo hooo :? :lo1l:
What a great weekend!
BTW, what's the status on that girdle?
Workin on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tarior
Hello.....Supposedly the 392 Hemi stud girdle can be adapted to the AM block quite easily by a machinist.
http://www.american-powersports.com/...k/392_sg1.jpeg
http://www.american-powersports.com/...k/392_sg2.jpeg
http://www.american-powersports.com/...k/392_sg3.jpeg
http://www.american-powersports.com/...k/392_sg4.jpeg
http://www.american-powersports.com/...k/392_sg5.jpeg
I've been watching them on Ebay and they usually go for $275~$400
That looks like a whole block girdle :idea:
And the mods to the oil pan :-|
Yeah, in the pics, you can see the countersunk holes where it bolts to the block, and the threaded ones where the pan bolts to the girdle. But where does it girdle the main studs, or, is it just a block reinforcement? :-|
Well, I talked to my friend, and hes still trying to get prices together, mostly what it will cost to machine more and what is least expensive.
Did the machinist ever get these produced?
I think I would rather have 4-bolt caps fitted to the center three bearings than machine for the 392 Hemi girdle assy.
I talked to a guy at Milodon & he said they still have the blueprints & may make A set for me.
I think that "Summers Brothers" also used to make a set, but I didn't see any ref to them on their website:
http://www.summersbrothersracing.com/SBrosHome.htm
For a 360, I sure like this option, as 4 bolt caps aren't possible on a 360 blockQuote:
Originally Posted by 73hornut
That IS very nice!!!
He's designing these mainly for the 360's, but work on others as well. Talked to him yesterday, and he's still looking into costs and having them laser cut.
You never said what you were trying to modify ... #-oQuote:
Originally Posted by 73hornut
You can mod your own posts (upper right corner of your post gives (or should give) you an "edit" button), but what are you trying to do - I'm no longer government, but am still here to help :t:
Mud
There aren't any modify or edit buttons in my posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudrat
Let me fix this
Thar be edit and delete buttons now! Thanks Mud and MC.
:t:
But go VOTE we're down to #41 :smile:
Plasma cutting is probably good enough, and a lot more common.Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hornut
Waterjet cutting may be more available than laser as well, and every bit as precise.
So what's the story.. No BS about pricing... Any word yet for the avail?
These should be blanchard ground after laser or plasma
Is this another way of saying milled???Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepsr4ever
Well they may have a couple of issues. One is that the expansion rate MUST be the same as the stock cap. 1045 is the popular choice of material and it has a co-efficient of thermal expansion that is VERY close to the stock caps and block, 212 - 750 deg F. is 5.9-7.5 (per pro grams specs) Which is probly heat treated. When you use a plasma or lasered piece and it expands much greater than those numbers (mild steel) then your nuts will loosen. Material stability is another one...mild steel will dance under the heat due to the stresses (unless stress relieved) and for that length and thickness of material if it is indeed mild steel it can cause bearing issues. All this considering the machinist hasnt done his math on the material involved. Other considerations would be the flatness of the material. Blanchard grinding give materials a ultra flat surface, better than just a machined surface. The holes should also be VERY close to .500. Hopefully all this is integrated into this item.
Yeah, OK. Whatever. Guess this is why I leave that shit up to the professionals ... right now I have to find a bigger hole saw to mount my new gauges .... :smile:
It'll be ok Rat.. some days are like that, Just when I think I get it, up pops some smart guy that proves that not only didnt I get it.. I probably wasn't even close.. Thus.. Money, So we can pay these guys for thier expertise..
As to the bigger hole saw.. when you get the bigger one you will probably punch one off center an 1/8th..
Is this helping any or do you need the suicide hotline number? :wink:
You've been a BIG help!!! ](*,) Now where did I put that rope ... http://www.floridajeepers.net/images.../icon_hang.gif
Actually I'm going to ask Darrell if he has a dcorrect size Greenlee punch.
with the greenlee punch you will still have to open up the hole some
1-800-help me 8)