I'm screwed

[Mudrat]

Well, got a lot deeper into this POS M20 axle. Trying to sort out axle shaft lengths to get replacements, I popped the cover back off to pull the pig and check the splines inside on the long side that spun.


Wanted to check wear pattern before I pulled it out to see if It needed to be reset when I put it back in ... But I found a WHOLE lot worse when I got in there other, than a bad wear pattern ...

Not a lot of toe engagement


Which probably caused this ... One side of the pinion crown - -


The other side


There were no chunks in the oil or stuck to the plug - where'd they go??

Here's the run down ...
Option 1)
- IF I can find the missing pieces ... by tearing down the Detroit
- new ring and pinion (4.56)
- all new bearings and seals
- 2 new shafts (if I can figure out the real length I need)
- the tubes have been welded and ground in several places


Or Option 2)
- not restore the 88 (looking like at least $6 large for that and I can by one cheaper in better shape and build it for that!! )
- pull the axles and use the those
- install the spring over perches (now or later?)
- put the disc brake setup on them
- hopefully NOT have a spun shaft (but at least I know the make and year on this one)
- get the replacement 4.56's to go with the tires
- still need to replace the lockers
Put the bad axles under the waggie with the old carrier, and
sell the other parts before dumping to a recycle yard
and get some of the $$ back from it

Either way I'm pissed I spent a bunch of $$$ for and on this frigg'n POS already - and it hasn't even left the shop!!! Now what's the best option to get the CJ running?

Pat

[Lifted79CJ7]

I say go the route of Option 3, which is:

A) Ditch that 20
B) Go to U Wrench It and for $100 grab a rear dana 60 or 14 bolt out of something. Don't grab the brake stuff - they chrage you for the drums.
C) Cut it down, regear and disc brake it and slap it in the CJ. Refer to A.
D) Ditch the Waggy - My boss picked up a MINT Waggy with less than 40K miles for $4500 - then he put ~$1500 in it fixing a couple underhood issues. This was having a shop do it, he could have done it for a lot cheaper himself.

Save yourself some money and more headaches and bury that 20 in the back yard. I also know that you may question the lug pattern, but if I am not mistaken (which I might be) there are kits out there to keep the 6 of 5.5....

[jeepsr4ever]

Jack's right....ditch the 20. Get your money for the detroit and bail on the 20. Sounds like it was a basketcase that someone shortened and made a mess out of before you got it.

[Mudrat]

I say go the route of Option 3, which is:

A) Ditch that 20
B) Go to U Wrench It and for $100 grab a rear dana 60 or 14 bolt out of something.

Yeah, that's the popular consensus even from the wife (well except replacing the axle with something bigger )

Jack, OBTW, UWI is now Pick'n Pull - got bought out last week I guess.

Pat

[ROBERT11]

I know where a Military 14 bolt is sitting if you want it. The only problem is that you will have to regear it( Oh and it will be a chevy 8 bolt pattern so you would have to get new rims).

[ROBERT11]

Nice paint is that crayola

[Mudrat]

I know where a Military 14 bolt is sitting if you want it. The only problem is that you will have to regear it( Oh and it will be a chevy 8 bolt pattern so you would have to get new rims).

No new rims!!! Want to keep the same on all 4 But a regear is going to happen no matter what ...

Nice paint is that crayola

Yeah! Got a problem with it ???
Actually it's some of my wifes craft paint

[jeepsr4ever]

Pat if your running 35" tires dont be afraid of the Ford 9"...at that angle you can run a low pinion with less damage than with smaller than 35" tires. Cheap, plentifull and 5 on 5.5!!,......or thats right your a 6 bolt now arent you?

[Mudrat]

Pat if your running 35" tires dont be afraid of the Ford 9"...at that angle you can run a low pinion with less damage than with smaller than 35" tires. Cheap, plentifull and 5 on 5.5!!,......or thats right your a 6 bolt now arent you?

Yup - but I tell ya - with the problems I've found in the rear - I don't trust the front until I get into it too. Besides - they're brandy new rims

[Dusty]

Ditch the 20 you're screwed. ha ha.

find a waggy, scout or cherokee D44 rear slap it in for $100 and be done

i say scout because you can get a set of shafts with 6 bolt flanges and then slap your M20 brakes onto them IIRC