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    fueler stuff

    A while back, maybe a long while, someone posted a bunch of stuff about top fuel/funny car motors. Like how much fuel they use, power, rpms, all a bunchof mind boggling stuff. I was gonna show it to a frind but I cant find it anymore. Can anyone pull it back up and repost it?
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    It was a while back. Here it is again.

    Revheads will love this

    A lesson in acceleration:

    First, some useful info:

    * One Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows at the Daytona 500.

    * Under full throttle, a Top Fuel dragster engine consumes 1 1/2 gallons
    of nitro methane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the
    same rate with 25% less energy being produced.

    * A stock Dodge 426 Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster's supercharger.

    * With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.

    * At the stoichiometric 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitro methane the
    flame front temperature measures 7050 degrees F.

    * Nitromethane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the
    stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric
    water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

    * Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of
    an arc welder in each cylinder.

    * Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2
    way, the engine is dieseling from compression plus the glow of exhaust
    valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting
    the fuel flow.

    * If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up
    in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to
    blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.

    * In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds dragsters must accelerate at
    an average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph well before
    half-track, the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.

    * Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed
    reading this sentence.

    * Top Fuel Engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light!
    This one confuses some, but stop & ponder the fact that the engine is
    only used for apx 4 to 5 seconds.

    * Including the burnout the engine must only survive 900 revolutions
    under load.

    * The red-line is actually quite high at 9500 rpm.

    * The Bottom Line; Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew
    worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an
    estimated $1,000.00 per second. The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed
    time record is 4.441 seconds for the quarter mile (10/05/03, Tony
    Schumacher). The top speed record is 333.00 mph (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66' of The run (09/28/03 Doug Kalitta).

    Putting all of this into perspective:

    You are riding the average $250,000 Honda MotoGP bike. Over a mile up
    the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a
    quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying
    start. You run the RC211V hard up through the gears and blast across the
    starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph (293 ft/sec).
    The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment. The dragster
    launches and starts after you. You keep your wrist cranked hard, but
    you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within
    3 seconds the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the
    finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him. Think
    about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph
    and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed
    you within a mere 1320 foot long race course.
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    Thank You!
    BTW Tuff, How are those heads? Hpoe they are good for ya!
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    Check your PM. They look good. Threw some spare valves, springs, retainers, and locks on them (yes, I had a set of spare valves for 291C heads). Put them on the shelf for spares. When I redid the 291s on my AMX, I had them done with the bigger 1.68" exhaust valves, hardened seats, positive seals, and a fair amount of port and unshroud work. Hope those 090s are working out for you. Got a line on another set of 090s that I may try to pick up this weekend. You can never have enough of the "good" heads as spares.

    Bob
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