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    Newb in need of guidance

    Besides oil changes and some overheating troubleshooting, I'm pretty much a newb when it comes to engines. I'm getting a free 360, not sure the specifics on it yet, but I want to use it to learn how to build an engine. Are there any good AMC books or just general V8 rebuild books or DVDs you guys would recommend? I'd love to take a class and learn hands on with someone watching over my shoulder but regular school doesn't leave much time for extra classes. Thanks for the help.

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    Welcome to the world of AMCs and Bulltear.
    Ask anything you want, lots of helpful people here.

    This is one of the better books.

    http://www.hobbyobsession.com/bjsbook.html

    There's also this book, but it hasn't been updated since the early 70s.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-...parms=72%3A727

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    Thanks Bob. I'm sure I'll have plenty of questions.

    Any specific engine stand you guy recommend? I'm looking at this one because I could pick it up from Sears and not worry about shipping

    http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0070921x00003a

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    Probably overkill. An AMC V-8 weighs less than 700 LBS fully dressed. I've got a 1000 LB stand from Harbor Freight that was around $50 on sale. Just depends on what you want to spend, and how much you use it.

    http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=32916

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    Look on Craigslist as there always seems to be someone getting rid of a stand.

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    Ok I'm picking up my free 360 on Sunday and I have a few questions. I ordered a stand from Sears, this one to be exact http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0070921x00003a

    I've never used an engine hoist or stand so, first off what type of chain should I buy to use to lift the motor and how much will I need?

    How do I attach the engine to the stand? I doubt the stand comes with bolts so what size bolts do I need to go buy? I need to get all this done Sunday so I can return the engine hoist I'm borrowing to the local offroad shop. Thanks for the help!

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    I'm guessing the bolts will be the same size/pitch/thread as the bell housing bolts. Still can't find that info anywhere though..

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    This tool is worth it's weight in gold..
    http://www.autozone.com/Ntt,engine%2...9E3476E6340B7F

    But for a 1 time use, go get a piece of 3/8" chain about 2 feet long. You should be able to get a manifold bolt thru the link. Attach it crosswise (left front/right rear) to the intake manifold bolts.

    The bolts for the engine stand will be 3/8" for top holes and 7/16" for the bottom. You need 2 bolts of each size Length will depend on the stand, probably 3 1/2" to 4" long. Be sure they're at least grade 5, grade 8 is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tufcj
    This tool is worth it's weight in gold..
    http://www.autozone.com/Ntt,engine%2...9E3476E6340B7F

    But for a 1 time use, go get a piece of 3/8" chain about 2 feet long. You should be able to get a manifold bolt thru the link. Attach it crosswise (left front/right rear) to the intake manifold bolts.

    The bolts for the engine stand will be 3/8" for top holes and 7/16" for the bottom. You need 2 bolts of each size Length will depend on the stand, probably 3 1/2" to 4" long. Be sure they're at least grade 5, grade 8 is better.

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    Thanks Bob, thats a big help. Could I also just wrap the chain around the motor a couple times? I've got about 20ft of 3/8" chain at my disposal.

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    I've pulled an engine with a tow strap wrapped around it. The problem is there's a good chance you'll dent the pan and valve covers. They're only tin, not meant to support any amount of weight. A couple of feet of chain and a couple of bolts and thick washers can't be more than $5 at a local hardware store.

    There's always a deal like this that mounts to the top of the intake. I've never trusted the weight of an engine to four 5/16" bolts.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HEAVY-DUTY-ENGINE-LIFT-PLATE-15042_W0QQitemZ270277630835QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMoto rs_Automotive_Tools?hash=item270277630835&_trksid= p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A543|65%3A12|39%3A1|24 0%3A1318

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