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    Overwhelm the system

    THIS IS GETTING SERIOUS GUYS:



    WAYNE ALLYN ROOT: Overwhelm the system
    Barack Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he's doing. He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. Economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos -- thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within.
    Barack Obama is my college classmate (Columbia University, class of '83). As Glenn Beck correctly predicted from day one, Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University. They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands. Add up the clues below.

    Taken individually they're alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival ... And can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.

    -- Universal health care. The health care bill had very little to do with health care. It had everything to do with unionizing millions of hospital and health care workers, as well as adding 15,000 to 20,000 new IRS agents (who will join government employee unions). Obama doesn't care that giving free health care to 30 million Americans will add trillions to the national debt. What he does care about is that it cements the dependence of those 30 million voters to Democrats and big government. Who but a socialist revolutionary would pass this reckless spending bill in the middle of a depression?

    -- Cap and trade. Like health care legislation having nothing to do with health care, cap and trade has nothing to do with global warming. It has everything to do with redistribution of income, government control of the economy and a criminal payoff to Obama's biggest contributors. Those powerful and wealthy unions and contributors (like GE, which owns NBC, MSNBC and CNBC) can then be counted on to support everything Obama wants. They will kick-back hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions to Obama and the Democratic Party to keep them in power. The bonus is that all the new taxes on Americans with bigger cars, bigger homes and businesses helps Obama "spread the wealth around."

    -- Make Puerto Rico a state. Why? Who's asking for a 51st state? Who's asking for millions of new welfare recipients and government entitlement addicts in the middle of a depression? Certainly not American taxpayers. But this has been Obama's plan all along. His goal is to add two new Democrat senators, five Democrat congressman and a million loyal Democratic voters who are dependent on big government.

    -- Legalize 12 million illegal immigrants. Just giving these 12 million potential new citizens free health care alone could overwhelm the system and bankrupt America. But it adds 12 million reliable new Democrat voters who can be counted on to support big government. Add another few trillion dollars in welfare, aid to dependent children, food stamps, free medical, education, tax credits for the poor, and eventually Social Security.

    -- Stimulus and bailouts. Where did all that money go? It went to Democrat contributors, organizations (ACORN), and unions -- including billions of dollars to save or create jobs of government employees across the country. It went to save GM and Chrysler so that their employees could keep paying union dues. It went to AIG so that Goldman Sachs could be bailed out (after giving Obama almost $1 million in contributions). A staggering $125 billion went to teachers (thereby protecting their union dues). All those public employees will vote loyally Democrat to protect their bloated salaries and pensions that are bankrupting America. The country goes broke, future generations face a bleak future, but Obama, the Democrat Party, government, and the unions grow more powerful. The ends justify the means.

    -- Raise taxes on small business owners, high-income earners, and job creators. Put the entire burden on only the top 20 percent of taxpayers, redistribute the income, punish success, and reward those who did nothing to deserve it (except vote for Obama). Reagan wanted to dramatically cut taxes in order to starve the government. Obama wants to dramatically raise taxes to starve his political opposition.

    With the acts outlined above, Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system.

    Add it up and you've got the perfect Marxist scheme -- all devised by my Columbia University college classmate Barack Obama using the Cloward and Piven Plan.

    WE MUST VOTE THIS FALL
    OR WE MAY NO-LONGER HAVE THAT PRIVILEGE
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    I'm not sure that voting Republican is the answer either...ALL these guys are fools and screwing us one way or another. I'm not to hip on having the Republicans raise my retirement age to 98 while they rape the blue collar worker another 4 or 8 years.

    All these guys have to man up and start working for us and fix the damn problems rather than trying to get reelected again.

    VOTE ALL THEM OUT!! every election ever time until they understand.
    If this new part can't break....what old part will??

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    Jeep man,

    No party is going to be perfect and it would not gain you or the nation to sit out the elections. Someone is going to hold down the offices of government. It is our job to vote in the candidates that will work the closest to constitutional concepts. We should not vote for a party but for individuals who will be faithful to the principles of the founding fathers ideals.
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    What part of VOTE THEM OUT didn't you understand?? I said nothing about sitting out the elections...where did you get that from???

    What I am tired of is the same crap these fools keep dishing out to us. The Republican party is broken...they don't hold the line on spending and are about tax brakes for the 'well to do'. The Democrats are about creating programs to spend more tax dollars on.

    The voters seem to think there are only 2 parties...there is a third and not the tea party...I will vote Independent when possible. Term limits would also be a help I believe and we can vote them out to enforce it until they put it in themselves.

    Also blaming Obama for everything isn't the right thing to do....we still have all the staff, people that aren't replaced by voting that are carry over and have spent WAY to long in our Government for the health of our country.

    Big business is running the country now and we have to take it back somehow. I don't believe everything on the 'net...and I don't believe ANY party candidate that promises ANYTHING, as they all lie.

    The free trade agreement has lost us more jobs and these fools in office can't see past the dollar they need to raise to get reelected.

    There is so much corruption, waste, greed and just plain stupidity in government and our elected officials it can't be all explained here.

    I just grow tired of these posting on here that have no verifiable proof of anything. I could post anywhere on the 'net that Obama was going to crash a comet into the Sea and wipe out all the whales and there would be people that repost it and believe it.

    I just think this isn't the place or the forum for you own political agenda or views...UNLESS you provide us with proof of what you say.
    If this new part can't break....what old part will??

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    Jeep man,

    I love your passion about this issue. I wish more people had the same passion, then maybe we could get someplace in taking back our government from the elate ruling class who are in it for the power fix. This type of person is in government not to fix things for the people but just the opposite, they need to keep things in turmoil so that the masses continue to need them.

    The problem so many times with people who hold to your loathing of the greater part of government, seeing no good in either party, most times loose their motivation to vote at all, because they look at voting for either party's candidate as one of futility and lose all motivation to vote.

    As for voting 3rd party is at this time is a waste of one's vote. The facts are that we as a nation are effectively are set up as a 2 party system. Voting for a third party one only throws his vote away as a protest vote and it most times allows those who vote with no moral consciousness to win. The conservative vote gets divided by protest votes. This we need to overcome by voting for the person who has the best chance of winning and who comes closest to our view. That is were your vote is needed.
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    Here's my two cents...
    Our Gov't in it's current state Is not a Government of the people, by the people, for the people. And for that reason alone, there is no right choice. You can say "Pick the lesser of the two Evils" but, my arguement against that is, they're both Evil and the last that I knew Evil is Evil. We need to put together Social Parties through out the country and begin a new Republic, A place for true Americans, who will defend the Constitutional, who will stand up and fight for our way of life and Rights. We the people will have to take matters into our own hands... It's coming, we let "it" get out of control, and now we must face what we have done, one way or another things will change. Perhaps that's why the Military is practicing Civil disturbance drills...

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    When was the last time you read (and they are listed in order):
    Declaration of Independence; July 4, 1776
    Constitution Ratified; September 17, 1787,
    Bill of rights; December 15, 1791

    The Declaration of Independance (and understood WHY?)

    The The US Constitution of these United States? including all Articles?

    Bill Of Rights
    " “It is said that men go mad in herds, and only come to their senses slowly, and one by one.." -Charles MacKay
    "'The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.' "
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    Please don't tell me that voting 3rd party is waste of my vote. It is a bigger waste to vote vote a party that is corrupt, broken and has led us to this road of destruction we are on.

    Your reasoning to vote the lesser of 2 evils is what has led us to this mess. They all need to be voted out..every so often.

    A change is what is needed...Obama hasn't delivered on that totally. But, he has opened up to the the media more than past presidents. Perhaps we could say he was the lesser of two evils than and vote for him again???

    If I vote for one of these 2 party fools it would be a waste of my vote...because they hold no ideals that I want as a party in charge.

    Further the media should have a black out until ALL votes are counted and not project the winner before ALL states have voted. Perhaps more people would vote then...why drive out to stand in line and wait to vote for a candidate that CNN, Fox and everyone else said has no chance to win?
    If this new part can't break....what old part will??

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    Jeep man wrote:
    Please don't tell me that voting 3rd party is waste of my vote. It is a bigger waste to vote vote a party that is corrupt, broken and has led us to this road of destruction we are on.

    Your reasoning to vote the lesser of 2 evils is what has led us to this mess. They all need to be voted out..every so often.

    A change is what is needed...Obama hasn't delivered on that totally. But, he has opened up to the the media more than past presidents. Perhaps we could say he was the lesser of two evils than and vote for him again??? Cool
    That is NOT my reasoning!!!! Yes I am telling you that voting 3rd party is a waste of your time. "He who will not heed history and take lesson from it is bound to repeat it." All you have to do is count how many 3rd party candidates have ever made it to office. The list must be too long to count! Is that why it doesn't exist? Somewhere along the line you must face the truth of the facts and be honest with yourself.

    You said:
    It is a bigger waste to vote vote a party that is corrupt, broken and has led us to this road of destruction we are on.
    Your not listening. That is not what I recommended. How can "a person" who has not yet held office be charged with things has not yet done?


    I said:
    This we need to overcome by voting for the person who has the best chance of winning and who comes closest to our view. That is were your vote is needed.
    I didn't say to vote for the lesser of two evils. I would never vote for someone who is evil. I didn't vote for Oboma. With the way he is governing no one in his right mind should vote for him. Look at his track record so far. He does not listen to the people. Vote in a fresh face!

    The problem is not in the voting process it is in the people voted into office by us. We need to vet our candidates better and not allow the media to do it for us before we vote!!

    Voters need to be better informed. That is our duty. That is my patriotic duty and why I post the information that I do.

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    My vote is still for a Noose and a Firing Squad... If Televised for the world to see, most importantly our "Elected Officials" it'll act as a deterrent and properly promote every no good snake to evacuate from their position of Authority.
    If it's fair for them to get bonuses and special treatment while we the people suffer and pay for their stupidity then I think it's fair that we give them this plan. I betcha it'll get a lot scum out of office in a hurry... But, that would be too easy and the American Sheeple would cry for them and say "it's not right to take a life" yada yada then complain that their kid died in a manufactured war... And then they would complain about how aweful their elected officials are and to top it off they would re-elect Obama and expect things to be better.
    I honestly dislike politics... If an Apple is an Apple it's an Apple... I'd be terrible at Politics.

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